I sat around with about five other officers, senior officers at that, today and viewed this tape of the tasering of a protestor at a John Kerry event at UF.
Our verdict? Tasering was appropriate. It has reported been reported two of the officers have been placed on paid leave, which standard whenever ECD’s are used.
For the untrained in the use of such device let’s review.
Electronic Control Devices or (ECDs) are used as tool of compliance. This subject refused to comply with the lawful order of a law enforcement officer. If he didn’t agree or thought his “constitutional rights” were being violated he simply only had to comply with the order to leave and then he could have filed complaints with the school or even hired a lawyer and sued later on. Courts by the way have generally ruled in favor the officers, as in Graham vs. Conner:
“The severity ofthe crime; whether the suspect poses an immediate threat to the safety of the officers or others; whether the suspect is actively resisting arrest or attempting to evade arrest by flight. In addition, the court acknowledges that the right to make an arrest carries with it the right to use some degree of physical coercion or threat thereof.”
In essence there is no excuse for non-compliance of a lawful order. He was told to leave he refused. He was told to roll over on his belly (assume a position for arrest) and refused.
Let’s also not forget that there was a US Senator present and thus highten security responses required. There is no doubt however framed the subject voiced hostility towards Senator Kerry and if I had been on the scene the possibility of the subject wiggling loose and grabbing one of the officer’s weapons I’m sure was on their mind.
He’s lucky. In the old days he could have be night sticked into compliance or by use of choke hold or pressure points used to make a subject comply. Tasering - of which I had in training - is relatively painless compared to other methods - trust me.
Michelle Malkin has more on the individual tasered and it appears - that for whatever reason - he “set this up” for attention or some other motivation other than just exercising “free speech”.
John at Stop the ACLU notes that there is more to the story that was originally reported. There always is.
UPDATE: As suspected and noted in the comments, looks to have been a demented prank.
” Andrew Meyer wrote in the report that Meyer later told police, “You didn’t do anything wrong.”
In the 12-page report, which gives accounts of the incident from the perspective of eight different officers who were present Monday afternoon, Officer Nicole Mallo writes that Meyer would only resist officers when cameras were present.
“As (Meyer) was escorted down stairs (at the University Auditorium) with no cameras in sight, he remained quiet, but once the cameras made their way down stairs he started screaming and yelling again,” Mallo wrote.
Mallo was one of two officers who actually rode in the vehicle as Meyer was escorted to the Alachua County jail, and she said said he told them during the ride: “I am not mad at you guys, you didn’t do anything wrong, you were just trying to do your job,” according to Mallo’s account.
Mallo also wrote in her report that he asked, at one point, if cameras would be present at the jail.”
Smile smuck, you got your 15 minute and good zap to go with it.
8 Responses
CommentGuy
September 18th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
1Mac
Look at the gal to his right (filming in progress when video started) plus camera guy squatting on floor until stuff started.
Probably associates of his.
Guy behind and right with coat and tie signals at 20 sec in (assume to cut off mic - cut signal)
Speaker seemed to resist by not try to disengage. Appeared to want to stage play the incident. From 1 min mark several spectators in back rows laughing and grinning (assumed recognized fakery for what it was)
Clearly looks like a setup
CommentGuy
September 18th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
2It would be interesting to determine if the gal with the cell phone doing video and the camera guy squatting on the floor are in the same journalism class or friends of the speaker.
This whole thing clearly is theater dragged out to play to the cameras.
Macranger
September 18th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
3You’re right, good “surveillance”, heh.
Yeah, it’s exactly what I thought as I read articles and my compadres agree. Plus as I said, no matter what one thinks of John Kerry, he is a US Senator and thus the response appropriate in this case.
CommentGuy
September 18th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
4There is a longer version on YouTube that shows his rant and a couple of people tapping him on the shoulder during his rant.
The video appears to be taken from the position and closeness that it would be the girl on his right in the video you posted (cell phone video gal).
Note that early in his rant, people on the far side of the room start exiting the gathering in apparent disgust with his behavior.
CommentGuy
September 18th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
5Youtube link
Reviewing longer tape, the short stage shot of Kerry clearly shows low quality of being originated from the cell phone. Also the audio lag is another characteristic of cell video.
It appears the lady officer is the one who was tapping him on the shoulder (hat bill shows)
Geez Diebold / Skull and Bones / Impeach Bush / Stop Iran invasion.
All he left out was Now WMD and 9/11 was an inside job.
CommentGuy
September 18th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
6The guy in the coat and tie identified (see Michael Malikin’s post
Accent Speaker’s Bureau president, Stephen Blank (in some videos, front row left side of right aisle), signals the AV guys to cut Meyer off.
ASB coordinates all guest speakers at UofF
Public Speecher
September 19th, 2007 at 2:12 am
7VIDEOS: “Don’t tase me bro!” - Andrew Meyer…
(TIP: For those who just want to watch the videos, I’ve embedded 3, and linked to another. So scroll down and skip my pontificating if you’re simply here for the vids)
By now it would be shocking if you hadn’t heard about the antics …
habanero
September 19th, 2007 at 9:51 am
8Bet you this isn’t an isolated incident. I bet you we start seeing phony “POLICE ABUSE” setups all over the country. In fact I bet you it can be traced to the Clinton camp.
I think I’m safe with my bet since Sharon Eubankes (sp?) with CREW let the cat out of the bag before Easter that the Clinton campaign stratigy was to orchestrate another “Rodney King” incident.
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