Foley Setup? - Part V - Uncovering the Conspiracy
Oct 4 at 4:04am by Macranger
****THIS IS A MAJOR STORY NOW, BUT NOT FOR THE REASONS SOME DESIGNED IT *****Did ABC NEWS’s Brian Ross commit a fraud? Who else is involved? *******Scroll to the bottom for updates as they happen****************
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a political conspiracy unravel as fast as this one that involves former representative Mark Foley.
Let’s recap.
1. On September 29th Foley is approached by ABC NEWS about salacious Instant Messages with a former page and abruptly resigns. Four days later he turns himself into rehab.
2. Through investigation by several bloggers, including yours truly, it is discovered that during the last few years, liberal watchdog group CREW may have had specific knowlede of the IM’s existance, and of Foley’s activities, and might have possibly been in possession corospondence between Rep. Foley and former page(s). Additionally a known “Republican Gay Outer”, Mike Rogers of Blog Active was found to have materially participated in the IM messaging of Foley and admitted to have been on a “campaign” to out Foley since at least as far back as March 2005, and specifically attempted to threaten Foley in January 2006, thus may be guilty of using threat or intimidation to influence a US Congressman’s vote on US legislation.
Yesterday Gateway Pundit uncovered that Mike Rogers had an a “partner” (although not known to be an accomplice at this point) in John Aravios of America’s Blog in a campaign against Foley as well. Gateway Pundit notes that there is no evidence that Aravios actually had specific evidence, but then holding evidence, and having knowledge of someone holding it are still crimes.
World Net Daily picked up on the story here, and puts together nicely what appears at this point to have been an orchestrated effort on the part of several leftwing activists to “pull the trigger” on this story just prior to midterm elections.
Additionally, while Mr. Foley appears by his resigning to have admitted to participating in IMing and emailing former pages, it’s not clear if all the recorded IM’s are authentic. The FBI, which is looking into the matter, as I mentioned here, will use specific forensic analysist to determine if in fact the corospondence discovered so far is in fact valid. Already it has been discovered that several IM’s may have in fact been tampered with.
At this point it’s not know the full involvement of those - or of others yet to be discovered - is. However, I do know that the specific focus of the FBI at this point is to determine who knew about Foley’s activities, when they knew it and specifically who withheld evidence in what may be a Federal Crime. Yet like in many investigations, there is sometimes the uncovering of other crimes that takes place. It should be said at this point that the attempt to attempt to extort or influence, or threaten a US congressman, in order to infuence legislation, or an election is a Federal Crime, and if in fact principals were involved in such an orchestrated plan it will be discovered.
Again, I must point out that even as a constituant of former respresentitive Foley, I detest his actions, and do not condone and accept them in anyway. In fact I support his prosecution if applicable laws have been broken. But again, those who particpated before the fact in the “outing” of Foley, seem to have had at this point specific knowledge of his activities and if proven at the least are guilty of conspriracy to withhold evidence, and obstruction of justice.
We shall see as the day(s) progress.
UPDATE: GOP bloggers covers the story.
UPDATE II: Promoted from the Comments, this note:
“FYI, you may have heard this, but Selena Zito with the Pittsburgh Tribune Review (I’m pretty sure that’s right) called in on a local (Birmingham, Alabama) talk radio program this morning. She said a major story might break today that a high ranking Democrat knew about the Foley matter and she hinted there was coordination with ABC, probably through George Stephanopoulos to release the story. (Not taking away from what a disgusting creep Foley is, but considering the reaction by the Dems to the story, this would look pretty bad for them IMO). Zito said she had a fewmore facts to verify, she does not want to report anything until she’s absolutely certain.
She also said other “outings” would most likely occur before the election and would further hurt the Republicans although she said Democrats would probably be affected as well.
I’m paraphrasing what she said, this is basically the gist of it. When the talk radio host asked when this might come out, she said he would be her second phone call.”
I’m getting other confirmations on this story, and it was also eluded to via Dick Morris on Hannity and Colmes last night.
More to come..
UPDATE III: Via quando net: Proof that John Aravosis of America’s Blog had possession of emails between Foley and victims MONTHS ago. Folks, if true that withholding evidence, aiding and abetting, and obstruction of justice. Possibly that explains the absence of Aravosis’s posts on Memeorandum today.
UPDATE IV: Round two from the uber Gay outing left?
UPDATE V: More of Mike Roger’s Blackmail.
UPDATE VI: Via Passionate America Blogspot, on a possible indentification of a recipient of Foley’s internet advances.
“Message from Wild Bill of Passionate America.
I have been contacted by Inside Edition and I might be on TV tonight. Blogger messed up while I was completing my breaking story and posted the unfinished post for about five minutes. I have pulled it down but it has already been seen by many people. The hate mails are rolling in and I expected that. I knew this story would anger a lot of people but it needs to be told. I am currently proof reading my story and I will probably post it without finishing it the way I wanted to. I will have to finish the story tonight. Thanks to the people that helped me and support me.
–Wild Bill–
UPDATE VII: Looks like another victim of Rogers has fallen, The chief of staff for Republican Congressman Tom Reynolds, Kirk Fordham, has resigned. MKH has the details.
UPDATE VIII: Passtionate America has the blockbuster post up on the identify of the teen Foley was IMing with.
“Jordan Edmund is 21 years old
Mark Foley is a scumbag! Mark Foley is a scumbag! Mark Foley is a scumbag!
Now that that is out of the way I will reveal how I (and a few others) discovered Jordan Edmund was one of the former house pages that participated in sexually explicit instant messages with Rep. Mark Foley. Also I will explain to you why I believe it necessary to reveal Jordan Edmund’s identity. You may not agree with my decision, but I hope to explain my reasoning by the end of this story.”
Read the rest. Wild Bill has more to come.
UPDATE IX: Gaypatriot on the David Corn threat.
UPDATE X: Drudge Report has the Passionate America story up.
More…
“A posting of an unredacted instant message sessions between Rep. Mark Foley and a former congressional page has apparently exposed the identity of the now 21 year-old accuser…ABC RELEASED TRANSCRIPT OF ONE CHAT BETWEEN FOLEY AND A MAN WHO WAS 18 AT THE TIME OF THE INSTANT MESSAGE EXCHANGE…. NETWORK STATED THE MESSAGE WAS TO ‘UNDER AGE’ TEEN… DEVELOPING… “
Ah…Kaboom! Much more to come….
Good job Wild Bill!
21 Responses for "Foley Setup? - Part V - Uncovering the Conspiracy"
jrooney
October 4th, 2006 at 5:11 am
1Tom Lifson has an article out this morning that got me thinking -
http://www.americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=6269
Is this the ket? -
According to Lifson, Aravosis (one of the known liberals outing gay congress people) said he obtained the latest information about the five-term congressman from Foley’s former chief of staff, Kirk Fordham.
QUESTION - Did Fordham have acccess to Foley’s IM account information, screen name and password? Very likely. Could he have passed this information onto Aravosis and Rogers? Very possible. Could some of the IMs been manufactured then by Rogers or Aravosis, those being reported by ABC. Probable.
We know someone logged onto Foley’s IM account yesterday when he was in a treatment center for 20-30 seconds, according to Fox News. Could this have been Rogers or Aravosis?
The Strata-Sphere » Blog Archive » Liberal Media Just Doesn’t Get America
October 4th, 2006 at 5:22 am
2[…] But the real problem with the Dems is not how bad things look or are for the Reps, it is the fact the dems have nothing superior to offer that is their problem. And this is where Fineman and his little echo chamber on the Chris Mathews show miss the entire point (and misunderestimate America). You could have the worse football team in the world win a game if the other team doesn’t show up and put up some effort. The Dems keep pointing at the Reps and offer nothing. In fact, what they want (endless impeachment hearings) is the last thing America wants or needs. So they keep looking at the Reps and saying “how could we lose now?” Easy: the dems are worse in everyway than what they show us in the Reps. Take the Foley example. Some liberals held onto evidence that there was a child predator lose. We have no idea if it was from 2003, 2005, or July. But it is clear democrats who were notified of the issue and who agreed to hide the evidence for political gain are guilty of endangering children. And they don’t even understand this either. The Dems don’t get America. We live by rules of honor and decency and sacrifice. We would never leave a predator on the street for personal gain. […]
Carol Johnson
October 4th, 2006 at 6:38 am
3WOW does this story move fast! I’m glued!
Meanwhile:
“Governor Rendell, do you see any need for any changes in state public schools in terms of security?”
RENDELL: You can make all the changes you want, but you can never stop a random act of violence by a person who is intent on killing themselves. It’s the same thing as protecting the president of the United States. You can have 50 Secret Service agents there, but if someone is willing to swap their life for the president’s, they’re going to get a point-blank shot at the president.”
…..
WTF??? Pennsylvania…do the right thing…VOTE FOR LYNN SWANN!!! Unbelievable!
Carol
Sister Toldjah » Democrat demagoguing of Foley scandal extends to campaign ads
October 4th, 2006 at 7:04 am
4[…] More: See this post by Jim Hoft and these two posts from Macsmind for the latest developments into who knew what and when, and what the FBI is investigating. By: Sister Toldjah in: Election ‘06, Scandals, Elections, Congress, Foleygate | Email this post Trackback URI for this post: http://sistertoldjah.com/archives/2006/10/04/democrat-demagoguing-of-foley-scandal-extends-to-campaign-ads/trackback/ » […]
jrooney
October 4th, 2006 at 7:44 am
5Mac,
This is from the the comments section #6 of http://polipundit.com/wp-comments-popup.php?p=15288&c=1#comments -
Re: Unless the Democrats in Congress knew about it and said nothing. Here is copy of an email I sent PoliPundit this morning:
FYI, you may have heard this, but Selena Zito with the Pittsburgh Tribune
Review (I’m pretty sure that’s right) called in on a local (Birmingham,
Alabama) talk radio program this morning. She said a major story might
break today that a high ranking Democrat knew about the Foley matter and she
hinted there was coordination with ABC, probably through George
Stephanopoulos to release the story. (Not taking away from what a
disgusting creep Foley is, but considering the reaction by the Dems to the
story, this would look pretty bad for them IMO). Zito said she had a few
more facts to verify, she does not want to report anything until she’s
absolutely certain.
She also said other “outings” would most likely occur before the election
and would further hurt the Republicans although she said Democrats would
probably be affected as well.
I’m paraphrasing what she said, this is basically the gist of it. When the
talk radio host asked when this might come out, she said he would be her
second phone call.
Blue Crab Boulevard » Blog Archive » The Danger Of Overplaying A Hand - Part Two
October 4th, 2006 at 8:46 am
6[…] Jim Hoft has a roundup of some things that probably should be making a few people nervous about the whole Foley matter. Not the people the left and the Dems would have you believe should be nervous, either. One bit he quotes from Mac's Mind stands out: "However, I do know that the specific focus of the FBI at this point is to determine who knew about Foley’s activities, when they knew it and specifically who withheld evidence in what may be a Federal Crime. Yet like in many investigations, there is sometimes the uncovering of other crimes that takes place. It should be said at this point that the attempt to extort or influence, or threaten a US congressman, in order to influence legislation, or an election is a Federal Crime, and if in fact principals were involved in such an orchestrated plan it will be discovered." […]
clarice
October 4th, 2006 at 10:45 am
7Rogers tried to blackmail a gay Senator on the Alito vote.
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/michael-rogers-tried-to-blackmail-senator-on-alito-vote
Flopping Aces » Blog Archive » The Foley Scandal Redux
October 4th, 2006 at 10:52 am
8[…] Macranger puts together a good timeline of this scandal: Through investigation by several bloggers, including yours truly, it is discovered that during the last few years, liberal watchdog group CREW may have had specific knowlede of the IM’s existance, and of Foley’s activities, and might have possibly been in possession corospondence between Rep. Foley and former page(s). Additionally a known “Republican Gay Outer”, Mike Rogers of Blog Active was found to have materially participated in the IM messaging of Foley and admitted to have been on a “campaign” to out Foley since at least as far back as March 2005, and specifically attempted to threaten Foley in January 2006, thus may be guilty of using threat or intimidation to influence a US Congressman’s vote on US legislation. […]
QT Monster's Place
October 4th, 2006 at 12:21 pm
9Foleygate, Where It Stands Today…
From Mac Ranger:I don’t think I’ve ever seen a political conspiracy unravel as fast as this one that involves former representative Mark FoleyRead his post to see where things stand today. vadkinsQT Monster Blog Home…
lead and gold
October 4th, 2006 at 12:23 pm
10Random bits on Foley, Hastert, and the drive-by media…
Hmmm. With Foley the scandal is the story. During the Clinton years, it was often the unearthing of the scandal that became the MSMs story. (Scaife, American Spectator, VRWC, etc.) Why is no one interested in the facts that Macs Mind has uneart…
Carol Johnson
October 4th, 2006 at 12:34 pm
11Clarice,
I see you got a mention over at Passionate America from a commenter with the web addy of patrickjfitzgeraldblogspot. Where have I heard that before? Maybe at JOM or one of the other blogs posting on this story. Is this another of Roger’s productions? Just asking.
Carol
Fersboo
October 4th, 2006 at 3:04 pm
12My first visit. Thanks for the legwork.
clarice
October 4th, 2006 at 3:16 pm
13I think that’s Larry Johnson–so does Steve Gilbert.
jrooney
October 4th, 2006 at 3:45 pm
14Mac,
You are doing a great job. My name is J. Rooney, and I am the one that wrote the following at Macsmind (jrooney) and Strasphere(roonent1) this morning. How it ended up at Gateway Pundit is a mystery to me:
QUESTION - Did Fordham have acccess to Foley’s IM account information, screen name and password? Very likely. Could he have passed this information onto Aravosis and Rogers? Very possible. Could some of the IMs been manufactured then by Rogers or Aravosis, those being reported by ABC. Probable.
We know someone logged onto Foley’s IM account yesterday when he was in a treatment center for 20-30 seconds, according to Fox News. Could this have been Rogers or Aravosis
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I believe now that Fordham is gone, resigned or forced out, that my question carries more weight. Why would Aravosis claim he received the information from Fordham if he had not? How would Forhan know Foley was IMing former pages that had already gone home, unless he knew Foleys IM screen name and password. I highly doubt Foley would IM these teenagers in front of Fordham. Fordham now is mad he is gone and is lashing out to try and cover his tracks with Aravois. Coincidently, he is now claiming he told REP leadership three years ago, about the same time Rogers came into possession of IMS from Foley. Yeah, now that is too much of a coincindence. Something stinks here big time.
This definetely needs more following up.
Thanks,
J. Rooney
ivehadit
October 4th, 2006 at 4:31 pm
15I totally agree! My bs meter is running high…
Kitty
October 4th, 2006 at 5:16 pm
16The comments on Wild Bill’s post are vicious.
Macranger
October 4th, 2006 at 5:25 pm
17J. Rooney,
Excellent info, thanks, yes there is much more to this story, more than we can get into right now as I check sources and leads.
But there IS more to come.
Chickenhawk Express
October 4th, 2006 at 5:43 pm
18FoleyGate and the Gay Fatwah Link O’Rama…
Rather than rehash the points and facts uncovered by my friends around the blogosphere, I’m gonna do what I did earlier this week and list some of the hot links. We’ve got breaking news, the name of one of Foley’s IM partners, Harry Reid’s use of F…
Carol Johnson
October 4th, 2006 at 5:58 pm
19Anyone catch Brian Ross on O’Reilley? Singing a slightly different tune on Speaker Hastert. More likely covering his a$$ for what’s about to come down.
Carol
Right Voices
October 4th, 2006 at 6:57 pm
20Liberals Setting the Gay Movement Back 10 Years…
As if the actions of Mark Foley weren’t enough to stand on their own merit as repulsive and illegal, we are now faced with the reality that Mike Rogers of blogActive and John Avarosis, who runs the lefty hate site, Americablog are both behind a c…
RightLinx
October 4th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
21ABC News Obsession with Sex Chat…
People are beginning to wonder why ABC News continues with their frenzied publication of Mark Foleys sex chats with both adults and minors. Why is it that Brian Ross keeps publishing the lurid details day after day after day after yet another day of …
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